Do you think DC copied most of the Marvel Heroes?

[Warmonger]

I do.

[Guy]

Hah this made me laugh.

Marvel based ALOT of their characters off of DC, this is just another case of Marvel fanboyism, sorry to tell you. Both companies have integrated ideas from the other into their own continuity.

[Batman1977]

If anything Marvel copied DC's characters...

*coughs* Squadron Supremem ringing any bells? *coughs*

[Steven Sykora 4000]

I gotta agree, seems to me Marvel has more rip offs then DC. I can't really think of any Marvel characters that DC "stole".

[Tazer]

Yo.


I do.

may I ask why ya feel so??




Tazer

[Warmonger]

Doomsday & Solomon Grundy = Hulk rip-offs
Ripclaw & Warblade = Wolverine rip-offs
Plastic Man = Mr. Fantastic rip-off

[KalEl]

Wasn't Grundy around before the Hulk?

[Batman1977]

Wasn't Grundy around before the Hulk?


Sort of. The short answer is yes, but he kind of grew into his hulk like abilities after the Hulk was introduced.

[Tazer]

Yo.


Doomsday & Solomon Grundy = Hulk rip-offs

ok, so big and strong characters = Hulk??

........right. this isnt really worth arguing over.


Ripclaw & Warblade = Wolverine rip-offs

they were created by Top Cow/Wildstorm over @ Image LOOOOOOONG before they came under the umbrella of DC Comics.

moving right along.....


Plastic Man = Mr. Fantastic rip-off

Plas was created in '41, and became a DC chara in '57, so I dont see how DC ripped off a character that hadnt been created yet.

HOWEVER Mr Fantastic himself is a rip-off since he's a mix of Elongated Man (who debuted about 6mos b4 him IIRC) and the Prof from Challengers of the Unknown. as a matter of fact the Fantastic Four are ripoffs of the CotU's given that: 1) they have direct analogues from 1 team to another, and 2) both were creations of Kirby and therefore used ALOT of the same themes (like the jumpsuit-uniforms for one).

can we talk about the likelihood that the Xmen were ripoffs of the Doom Patrol now??

:D




Tazer

[KJS]

They're as guilty as each other.

I mean, look at Sentry...

[MattGrant]

Ultimately i think everything is derivative of something else...

I'd say its way unfair to peg DC as a copycat since the superhero originated in National/DC comics... They started the silver age with the Flash revamp in the 50's. Heck, it wasn't even until JLA came out that Marvel jumped back on the superhero wagon with FF (they saw a team superhero book was doing well for DC... but they hedged their bets by keeping them out of costumes for the first issue, and including the monster-esque Thing, as they had been doing moster books up to that point after Cap/Human Torch/Sub-Mariner left for a while).

But like I say... everything is derivative to a degree. What counts is what they do with it.

Another interesting aspect of the comparison is that Marvel created a lot of their stuff in house and had the whole Kirby/Lee dynamic, whereas DC is the sum of a lot of acquistions... You've got your original National characters, your Fawcett characters, your Charleton characters, etc.... no wonder they have to have 4000 different crisis to smash all those worlds together!

[KalEl]

Interesting little factoid...The Fantastic Four had Ben Grimm as the Thing so they could sell it as a monster comic because they were doing so well at the time.